David64, You are right. I could run a router off a router... or TPG could let a router do what a router should do!! I will consider my options Thanks Geoff ... View more

David, Unfortunately, I do use VOIP, so Im pretty much tied to TPG using their modem. Also unfortunately, they have loaded up the firmware (as with all their other models) with a block on VPN ports. Its such small minded thinking and, at the end of the day, it would be my problem, not theirs!! They say the work around is to put the VPN on individual devices. Like most houses, I have a mix of apple, androiod, windows, linux and Tizen (Samsung TV operating system). Therefore not all of my devices can have the VPN installed as most apps are written for iphone and ported to android, or written for Mac and Ported to Windows. I have a couple of O/Ss that apps arenet written for. I have some on and some off the VPN. Those on, talk to each other. Those not on also talk to each other. BUT those on will not talk to those not on. So much for TPGs solution I would just like to use the router as intended by the manufacturer and not have TPGs interference GRI2A ... View more