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NBN - Archer 1600V - Google WiFi, Bridge Mode

Level 1b

Hi All

 

I'm trying to bridge the Archer 1600 to a Google WiFi mesh.

The documentation in the PDF on the Archer 1600v is recklessly scant with respect to bridging.

There are some older details in the forum about DSL bridging but nothing about NBN.

No matter what I tried, DMZ, Bridging etc nothing has worked.

Issuing the command "tracert 8.8.8.8" back comes two inside IP's indicating the double NAT remains in place.

 

Can anyone explain or link to how this might be achieved.

It seems a terrible waste to buy another modem just because the documentation is so poor.

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Level 1b

How about plugging the Google WiFi into the Arris NTD?

Level 1b

The response from the forum is pretty much as expected.

A few people have viewed the question but no responses and no one has an answer.

Calling TPG Support, they were polite but did not know how to bridge TPG supplied TP Link Archer 1600V.

As mentioned previously their only suggestion was to read the manual and that it was the manufacturers' responsibility to make it clear how to bridge the Archer1600.

FYI, The manual mentions bridge 6 times but never directly addressed it.

TPG supplied the TP Link Archer 1600V and I paid for it (not bundled).

It is fair to say I'm not demanding they fix my random hardware, just to operate the supplied hardware.

 

What's wrong

TPG Support must have dropped the phone connection over at least 10 times over 2 days of trying to sort this.

Sometimes they phoned back but sometimes they did not.

Tech Support does not know how to operate the Archer 1600v outside of very tight connection issues.

In pro networking terms bridging an outward-facing device = kindergarten

 

Where there is hope

The issue with Google WiFi appears to centre around the use of VLAN.

In terms of VLAN, TPG uses VLAN and Google WiFi does not.

Some fixes might be possible with managed switches, where you can create a VLAN within the switch itself.

The basic concept is to plug the Arris CM8200B (NTU Modem) and Google WiFi into a managed switch with a VLAN set up on two ports.

There are reports of success on for some RSP's but importantly also failure on the TPG network.

Probably won't go down the managed switch route for this reason.

Users at other particular RSP's do report success with simply connecting the Google Wifi directly to the Arris.

Almost certainly they do not use VLAN and that is why Google WiFi is working.

 

Next Steps

1. Give the TPG support team another chance.

2. Scope other RSP's regarding price and connectivity BEFORE signing up for a new plan.

 

Moderator

Hi @rawb111 

 

Welcome to TPG Community!

 

The supplied TP Link Archer VR1600 is for free, but the shipping of it will cost $10.

 

We've created an article on how to bridge the TPLink VR1600. You may refer to this link and this post.

 

Also, there was a discussion on how to set up the Google WiFi. You may check this link; HFC and Google WiFi. 

 

Kind regards,

BasilDV

Level 1b

Thanks BasilDV

 

I have covered those pages many times, thanks for the links.

 

With respect to the Archer for $10, it costs an extra $130 upfront for the opt-out contract.

Us simple folk call that buying a router.

 

Before I posted this reply I gave everything a go multiple times.

Result nothing worked so can ANYONE who has Google WiFi AND an Archer 1600V working please post here.

Note, not other routers, Google WiFi in single puck mode etc.

 

I have definitely wasted enough time trying to get this to work at this point.

Hopefully, we might hear from the Google WiFi - Archer 1600 -TPG NBN unicorn soon.

Realistically my path will now be to find a  provider that supports IPoE (DHCP) and forget about getting the VLAN2 connection to work.

Thanks

 

 

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Moderator

Hi @rawb111,

 

Just in case you missed this, here's another community thread that you may want to look into: Google WiFi

 

 

Regards,

Level 1b

Well done Will.

 

The article says - "You may use your google wifi as a router or wireless repeater together with our TP-Link VR1600v which has the VLAN that NBN Requires."

 

Some networking terms tend to be interchanged but Google says this on the repeater...

 

"Google WiFi is not a repeater / extender. It is a complete mesh solution. The primary Google WiFi node will be a router/firewall, creating a new internal network for wired and wireless devices".

 

So that is a hard no for repeater and the two routers scenario will give the troublesome double NAT configuration.

 

Thanks for your efforts.