Emails from Computershare not being received after migration

[qak]

I keep getting letters (snail mail) from ComputerShare share registry saying their email to my tpg email address was not delivered. I've been getting them fine for years until I migrated to TMC, my email address has not changed.

They all relate to separate shareholdings. I have so far received 5 failure letters. I *have* received one email from Computershare in between these letters.

Computershare (and other share registries) will be sending large volumes of emails on many dates each year.

Why is this happening and what is being done by TPG/TMC to fix this? Can you whitelist them?

[BasilDV]

Hi @qak 

We'd like to have a better understanding of the situation and see how we can help.

Please send us a private message with your account details.

BasilDV

[david64]

@BasilDV . I have the same issue. Computershare tried to send me an email on 27th Sep. I received a letter dated 2nd Oct advising of failure to send email. Their email server made several attempts to send until some limit was reached, probably a time limit expired. The letter is produced automatically and unfortunately there is no exact reason for failure. There has been no issue with receiving emails from them in the past.

My email is still with TPG because I have NOT received an email saying I have been transferred.

Some related threads:

https://community.tpg.com.au/t5/Broadband-Internet/Emails-missing-delayed/m-p/136708#M51099

https://community.tpg.com.au/t5/Broadband-Internet/Emails-missing-delayed/m-p/136606

[Shane]

Hey @david64,
 

Let’s check what’s happening with your incoming emails and see how we can help. Could you flick me a message with your details?

Regards,

@BasilDV . I have the same issue. Computershare tried to send me an email on 27th Sep. I received a letter dated 2nd Oct advising of failure to send email. Their email server made several attempts to send until some limit was reached, probably a time limit expired. The letter is produced automatically and unfortunately there is no exact reason for failure. There has been no issue with receiving emails from them in the past.

My email is still with TPG because I have NOT received an email saying I have been transferred.

Some related threads:

https://community.tpg.com.au/t5/Broadband-Internet/Emails-missing-delayed/m-p/136708#M51099

https://community.tpg.com.au/t5/Broadband-Internet/Emails-missing-delayed/m-p/136606
 

[david64]

Regarding the letter from Computershare, this email was actually received, but something must have happened during transmission to make their mail server think the email did not get through. This is first occurrence of an email failure.
Around this time, changes (removal of TLS 1.0 and 1.1) were being made to TPG mail server, maybe in relation to transfer to TMC.
I received an email dated about 1 hour prior to the failing email. It got through with no problem and no delay. Of the remaining senders going to TPG account, the emails have varying delays from None to 20 hours.
I'm pretty sure that all my email senders are unaware of the change between TPG and TMC and have not made any changes to their mail systems. Their mail systems worked the same on 27th and 28th Sep.

Following are some of the email headers from 2 emails from Computershare. They show the various mail servers that processed each message. The time zone used by each computer is indicated after the time value.
+0000 is GMT/UTC. +1000 is AEST before daylight saving.

FIRST MESSAGE. This was created 27th Sep 10:10:16. It arrived 27th Sep 10:10:48 no problems.

Return-Path: <Communications@mailservice.computershare.com.au>
Received: from deliver ([unix socket]) by rpt-cro-sph01.tpgi.com.au (Cyrus v2.4.13) with LMTPA;
Wed, 27 Sep 2023 10:10:48 +1000
Received: from rpt-cro-asav1.external.tpg.com.au (rpt-cro-asav1.external.tpg.com.au [60.241.0.37])
by mx1.tpgi.com.au (envelope-from Communications@mailservice.computershare.com.au) (8.14.7/8.14.3) with ESMTP id 38R0A8ws007385 for <xxxxxxxx@tpg.com.au>; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 10:10:41 +1000
Received: from gateway.pc5.atmailcloud.com (HELO mqr.i-08c0d97331176e550) ([13.54.26.16])
by rpt-cro-asav1.external.tpg.com.au with ESMTP; 27 Sep 2023 10:10:18 +1000
Received: from MX.i-030f5d11690a864c5 by MQR.i-08c0d97331176e550 with esmtps
(envelope-from <Communications@mailservice.computershare.com.au>) id 1qlI89-00062r-1l
for xxxxxxxx@tpg.com.au; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 00:10:17 +0000
Received: from bcsmtpd4.au.e-notification.net ([202.135.122.72])
by MX.i-030f5d11690a864c5 with esmtps
(envelope-from <Communications@mailservice.computershare.com.au>)
id 1qlI89-0002yJ-1F for xxxxxxxx@tpg.com.au; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 00:10:17 +0000
Received: from pps.filterd (meldvxbcmail4.computershare.net [127.0.0.1])
by meldvxbcmail4.computershare.net (8.17.1.19/8.17.1.19) with ESMTP id 38R00Mgf007972
for <xxxxxxxx@tpg.com.au>; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 10:10:17 +1000
Received: from melyvbcprd2oce2.oceania.cshare.net ([10.128.47.23])
by meldvxbcmail4.computershare.net (PPS) with ESMTP id 3t9e6yakj5-2
for <xxxxxxxx@tpg.com.au>; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 10:10:17 +1000
Received: from mail pickup service by Melyvbcprd2oce2.oceania.cshare.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
Wed, 27 Sep 2023 10:10:16 +1000
X-MessageKey: opcecdkejjkefbjedcde==
Message-ID: <20230927101016791H.opcecdkejjkefbjedcde==@MELYVBCPRD2.oceania.cshare.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
From: "XXXXXXXXX" <Communications@mailservice.computershare.com.au>
To: xxxxxxxx@tpg.com.au
Reply-To: unsubscribe@computershare.com.au
Date: 27 Sep 2023 10:10:16 +1000
Subject: XXXXXX

SECOND MESSAGE. This was created 27th Sep 11:08:39. It arrived 28th Sep 02:33:48.

Return-Path: <Communications@mailservice.computershare.com.au>
Received: from deliver ([unix socket]) by rpt-cro-sph01.tpgi.com.au (Cyrus v2.4.13) with LMTPA;
Thu, 28 Sep 2023 02:33:48 +1000
Received: from rpt-cro-asav6.external.tpg.com.au (rpt-cro-asav6.external.tpg.com.au [60.241.0.51])
by mx1.tpgi.com.au (envelope-from Communications@mailservice.computershare.com.au) (8.14.7/8.14.3) with ESMTP id 38RGX8GD009484 for <xxxxxxxx@tpg.com.au>; Thu, 28 Sep 2023 02:33:41 +1000
Received: from gateway.pc5.atmailcloud.com (HELO mqr.i-07ecf2811ebf566bb) ([13.54.26.16])
by rpt-cro-asav6.external.tpg.com.au with ESMTP; 28 Sep 2023 02:33:24 +1000
Received: from MX.i-0434250a13523ae93 by MQR.i-07ecf2811ebf566bb with esmtps
(envelope-from <Communications@mailservice.computershare.com.au>)
id 1qlXTX-00042t-1p for xxxxxxxx@tpg.com.au; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 16:33:23 +0000
Received: from bcsmtpd2.au.e-notification.net ([202.135.122.68]) by MX.i-0434250a13523ae93 with esmtps (envelope-from <Communications@mailservice.computershare.com.au>)
id 1qlXTX-0002YQ-1H for xxxxxxxx@tpg.com.au; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 16:33:23 +0000
Received: from pps.filterd (meldvxbcmail2.computershare.net [127.0.0.1])
by meldvxbcmail2.computershare.net (8.17.1.19/8.17.1.19) with ESMTP id 38R0HgxR006819
for <xxxxxxxx@tpg.com.au>; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 11:08:39 +1000
Received: from meldvbcprd1pp.oceania.cshare.net ([10.128.47.22])
by meldvxbcmail2.computershare.net (PPS) with ESMTP id 3t9gf5dg17-1
for <xxxxxxxx@tpg.com.au>; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 11:08:39 +1000
Received: from mail pickup service by meldvbcprd1pp.oceania.cshare.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
Wed, 27 Sep 2023 11:08:39 +1000
X-MessageKey: opcecdkekjhemkcekbde==
Message-ID: <20230927110839137H.opcecdkekjhemkcekbde==@MELDVBCPRD1.oceania.cshare.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
From: "XXXXXXXX" <Communications@mailservice.computershare.com.au>
To: "xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <xxxxxxxx@tpg.com.au>
Reply-To: Unsubscribe@computershare.com.au
Date: 27 Sep 2023 11:08:39 +1000
Subject:XXXXXXXX

[BasilDV]

Got this @david64

We'll forward this error to our Post Masters and will provide updates once available.

BasilDV

[david64]

Following are some control records for 2 emails from another sender. The first arrived with minimal delay; the second was delayed about 57 hours.

I think in most cases when a mail item reaches a "tpg" named server, it progresses quickly.

The delays seem to be related to these servers:

MX.i  and  MQR.i  and  gateway.pc5.atmailcloud.com.

The MX.i is first. When the delay occurs, it occurs here.

These 3 servers don't appear in my emails any earlier than Sep 2023, which makes me think they are part of the method to migrate to TMC.

MINIMAL DELAY
Return-Path: <bounce@e.theathletesfoot.com.au>
Received: from deliver ([unix socket]) by rpt-cro-sph01.tpgi.com.au (Cyrus v2.4.13) with LMTPA; Thu, 05 Oct 2023 08:47:49 +1100
Received: from rpt-cro-asav4.external.tpg.com.au (rpt-cro-asav4.external.tpg.com.au [60.241.0.40])
by mx2.tpgi.com.au (envelope-from bounce@e.theathletesfoot.com.au) (8.14.7/8.14.3) with ESMTP id 394LkOsb014915 for <xxxxxxxx@tpg.com.au>; Thu, 5 Oct 2023 08:47:41 +1100
Received: from gateway.pc5.atmailcloud.com (HELO mqr.i-0be12b36c1a091075) ([54.206.88.211])
by rpt-cro-asav4.external.tpg.com.au with ESMTP; 05 Oct 2023 08:47:03 +1100
Received: from MX.i-0deda5750cf252e4e by MQR.i-0be12b36c1a091075 with esmtps (envelope-from <bounce@e.theathletesfoot.com.au>)
id 1qo9hu-0007lS-0b for xxxxxxxx@tpg.com.au; Wed, 04 Oct 2023 21:47:02 +0000
Received: from r102.e.theathletesfoot.com.au ([130.248.137.102]) by MX.i-0deda5750cf252e4e with esmtps (envelope-from <bounce@e.theathletesfoot.com.au>) id 1qo9ht-0005xt-21 for xxxxxxxx@tpg.com.au; Wed, 04 Oct 2023 21:47:02 +0000
Received: from [10.84.255.134] ([10.84.255.134:42160] helo=r101.e.theathletesfoot.com.au)
by momentum05.sin2.cpt.adobe.net (envelope-from <bounce@e.theathletesfoot.com.au>)
(ecelerity 4.2.38.999 r() with ESMTP id 60/7C-03687-45DDD156; Wed, 04 Oct 2023 14:47:01 -0700
From: "The Athlete's Foot" <rewards@e.theathletesfoot.com.au>
Subject: Save $30 on your next purchase!
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2023 08:46:58 +1100
To: <xxxxxxxx@tpg.com.au>
Reply-To: "The Athlete's Foot" <noreply@e.theathletesfoot.com.au>

DELAYED ABOUT 57 HOURS
Return-Path: <bounce@e.theathletesfoot.com.au>
Received: from deliver ([unix socket]) by rpt-cro-sph01.tpgi.com.au (Cyrus v2.4.13) with LMTPA; Fri, 27 Oct 2023 23:36:56 +1100
Received: from rpt-cro-asav5.external.tpg.com.au (rpt-cro-asav5.external.tpg.com.au [60.241.0.50])
by mx2.tpgi.com.au (envelope-from bounce@e.theathletesfoot.com.au) (8.14.7/8.14.3) with ESMTP id 39RCBEZ1017524 for <xxxxxxxx@tpg.com.au>; Fri, 27 Oct 2023 23:12:32 +1100
Received: from gateway.pc5.atmailcloud.com (HELO mqr.i-0d0b1d0ec847e0a83) ([13.54.26.16])
by rpt-cro-asav5.external.tpg.com.au with ESMTP; 27 Oct 2023 23:12:04 +1100
Received: from MX.i-0855f60b1c5c292b1 by MQR.i-0d0b1d0ec847e0a83 with esmtps (envelope-from <bounce@e.theathletesfoot.com.au>)
id 1qwLh4-00058Q-34 for xxxxxxxx@tpg.com.au; Fri, 27 Oct 2023 12:12:02 +0000
Received: from r101.e.theathletesfoot.com.au ([130.248.137.101]) by MX.i-0855f60b1c5c292b1 with esmtps (envelope-from <bounce@e.theathletesfoot.com.au>) id 1qwLh4-00064h-1Y for xxxxxxxx@tpg.com.au; Fri, 27 Oct 2023 12:12:02 +0000
Received: from [10.84.255.166] ([10.84.255.166:35542] helo=r101.e.theathletesfoot.com.au)
by momentum06.sin2.cpt.adobe.net (envelope-from <bounce@e.theathletesfoot.com.au>)
(ecelerity 4.2.38.999 r() with ESMTP id 15/6E-09499-B3788356; Tue, 24 Oct 2023 20:10:52 -0700
From: "The Athlete's Foot" <rewards@e.theathletesfoot.com.au>
Subject: It's a FIT FRENZY at The Athlete's Foot!
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 14:10:50 +1100
To: <xxxxxxxx@tpg.com.au>
Reply-To: "The Athlete's Foot" <noreply@e.theathletesfoot.com.au>

[david64]

From 29th July.  Minimal delay.  Sent to TPG address.

Return-Path: <bounces+8325676-d909-XXXXXXXX=tpg.com.au@email.rs.au.nextdoor.com>
Received: from deliver ([unix socket])
by rpt-cro-sph01.tpgi.com.au (Cyrus v2.4.13) with LMTPA;
Sat, 29 Jul 2023 12:17:09 +1000
X-Spam-Level: *
X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.2 required=10.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,
DKIM_VALID_AU,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,RDNS_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,
SPF_NONE,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=disabled
version=3.4.2
X-Spam-RelaysUntrusted: [ ip=167.89.43.98 rdns=
helo=o29.email.rs.au.nextdoor.com by=rpt-glb-asav5.external.tpg.com.au
ident= envfrom= intl=0 id= auth= msa=0 ]
Received: from rpt-glb-asav5.external.tpg.com.au (rpt-glb-asav5.external.tpg.com.au [60.241.0.14])
by mx2.tpgi.com.au (envelope-from bounces+8325676-d909-XXXXXXXX=tpg.com.au@email.rs.au.nextdoor.com) (8.14.7/8.14.3) with ESMTP id 36T2GU5g022073
for <XXXXXXXX@tpg.com.au>; Sat, 29 Jul 2023 12:17:01 +1000
Received-SPF: Pass (rpt-glb-asav5.external.tpg.com.au: domain of
bounces+8325676-d909-XXXXXXXX=tpg.com.au@email.rs.au.nextdoor.com
designates 167.89.43.98 as permitted sender)
identity=mailfrom; client-ip=167.89.43.98;
receiver=rpt-glb-asav5.external.tpg.com.au;
envelope-from="bounces+8325676-d909-XXXXXXXX=tpg.com.au@email.rs.au.nextdoor.com";
x-sender="bounces+8325676-d909-XXXXXXXX=tpg.com.au@email.rs.au.nextdoor.com";
x-conformance=spf_only; x-record-type="v=spf1";
x-record-text="v=spf1 ip4:167.89.26.183 ip4:167.89.43.98
-all"
Received-SPF: None (rpt-glb-asav5.external.tpg.com.au: no sender
authenticity information available from domain of
postmaster@o29.email.rs.au.nextdoor.com) identity=helo;
client-ip=167.89.43.98;
receiver=rpt-glb-asav5.external.tpg.com.au;
envelope-from="bounces+8325676-d909-XXXXXXXX=tpg.com.au@email.rs.au.nextdoor.com";
x-sender="postmaster@o29.email.rs.au.nextdoor.com";
x-conformance=spf_only
Authentication-Results: rpt-glb-asav5.external.tpg.com.au; spf=Pass smtp.mailfrom=bounces+8325676-d909-XXXXXXXX=tpg.com.au@email.rs.au.nextdoor.com; spf=None smtp.helo=postmaster@o29.email.rs.au.nextdoor.com; dkim=temperror (key query timeout) header.i=@rs.au.nextdoor.com; dmarc=pass (p=reject dis=none) d=nextdoor.com
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Nextdoor Your Narwee neighbours

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